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Wednesday, 1 February 2012

Canada's Big Baird consults on Iran with Zionists

... formulating government policy based on extremist views

Contributor: "Relayer"

John Baird: Iran's threat is real, not rhetoric

Excerpts:

If Mr. Caplan had bothered to pick up the phone and ask me if I had heard of Meir Dagan or Amos Yadlin, I would have told him that not only have I heard of them, I reached out to them weeks ago to ensure they could attend a discussion of the Iranian situation while I am in Tel Aviv this week ...

It might come as a surprise to Mr. Caplan that Liberal MP Irwin Cotler and I frequently discuss the problem posed by a nuclear Iran, and his counsel amounts to much more than “spin notes and sound bites.”
Big Baird
The above is a Globe and Mail article by Canada's Minister of Foreign Affairs in response to Gerald Caplan’s excellent article earlier this week.

Note the reader comments – over 1100.  If you sort by “highest score” you will see that Canadians are not buying Baird’s bunk.

Here's the article by Gerald Caplan that Baird is referring to:

Harper and the U.S. are wrong on the Iran threat

Excerpt:
It’s unlikely that Stephen Harper, John Baird, Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich have ever heard of Tamir Pardo, Meir Dagan, Amos Yadlin, Gabi Ashkenazi or Yuval Diskin. But it would probably make no difference if they had. After all, Benjamin Netanyahu certainly knows them well and ignores them completely.

So the reckless escalation of aggression against Iran, both physical and rhetorical, continues apace. Presumably the end game is both regime change in Tehran and an end to Iran’s nuclear ambitions – admirable, if unrealistic, objectives. Far more plausible is an uncontrollable conflict that will spread throughout the Middle East and from there to, well, no one knows. But it is not wrong to fear the worse, as many knowledgeable observers do.

But those who know least, like the American lunatic fringe (aka the Republican Party) and the Harper government, are either willfully ignorant of or indifferent to the logical consequences of their positions.
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Ed Note:  Baird, as usual, shot off his answer before thinking.  Consequently, he effectively admits that he intends to take counsel in Tel Aviv from people to whom the Israeli Prime Minister gives no credence. He also reveals that he receives advice from extreme Zionist Irwin Cotler (who has been ranting against Iran for such a long time that everybody knows what he is going to say so no need to ask him) which amounts to an admission that any perceived differences between the Libs and the Cons are US-style - strictly cosmetic.

Related:  Iran well prepared for the worst
According to the report published by the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA), "Iran, in particular, has been investing in new capabilities that could be used to deter, delay or prevent effective US military operations in the Persian Gulf. Iran's acquisitions of weapons that it could use to deny access to the Gulf, control the flow of oil and gas from the region, and conduct acts of aggression or coercion, are of grave concern to the United States and its security partners."

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Seems Caplin isn't the only one questioning Harper and Baird's love affair with Israel..
John Baird take note: the world’s greatest Holocaust scholar doesn’t have much use for politicians who shamelessly pander to Israel or use that dread event to advance their agendas.

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/02/01/michael-harris-canada-will-be-on-the-sidelines-in-search-for-middle-east-peace/

And while Iran had inspector's there yesterday,in Washington they had US Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper regurgitating the used car salesman story and the more than unbelievable plot to assassinate that Saudi ambassador a few months ago, instead of focusing on the crucial Iran visit by International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors.Of course the compliant US media poodles will assist in concentrating on the new leaks on the "Iran threat" that once again fuel political hysteria against Iran in a maneuver to sidetrack Iran's nuclear transparency.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NB02Ak01.html

yayacanada said...

Thanks for the interesting, informative links.

With regard to the alleged threat against the Saudi ambassador's life, a good rule of thumb for the dull-thinking media should be that whenever a government-paid informant is involved, a "concocted" story is most likely.

M. Rocknest said...

February 4th is "No War On Iran" day and although there appear to be many cities in the U.S.A. participating I could only find 3 in Canada -- Vancouver, Calgary and Lethbridge. What's up with that? You know Harper will be contributing to the efforts of Israel and the U.S.A. to bring Iran to its knees. You know it is Israel which has Harper's ear when it comes to foreign policy in the Middle East. We will need an extremely loud and persistent voice to insert our desire for peace into Harper's bobble head.

http://www.antiwar.com/feb4/feb4-home.html

yayacanada said...

I can only venture my own personal guess, and only where Ottawa is concerned. I personally think the anti-war movement there was infiltrated and neutralized. If they do anything it's a last-minute deal and strictly symbolic.

This is the organization that used to organize protest events, and managed to get out 10,000 people prior to the Iraq war. Check out their links and you'll see they are either dead or nearly dead.

This is the organization that has become a sort of umbrella for most social activism in Ottawa, but it's not exactly a hotbed.

Even the Ottawa-Palestine Solidarity group hasn't posted since early 2010, and Canpalnet-Ottawa hasn't posted since July 2011.

Some people got burnt out, I suppose, but most have jobs with the government or rely on government contracts, so ....

Can't imagine what's happening in Toronto, or Halifax. Maybe it's only we conspiracy nuts who think Iran's the next target.

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